tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post3986564295192339002..comments2024-03-26T13:17:29.405-04:00Comments on Outlandish Observations: Episode 312: "The Bakra" (SPOILERS!)Karen Henryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07635855088490793965noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-67212232744636473352022-07-21T10:29:24.064-04:002022-07-21T10:29:24.064-04:00Perhaps I was hearing things, but didn't Gelli...Perhaps I was hearing things, but didn't Gellis Duncan mutter something about Benjamin Button? I believe this was a reference to F. Scott Fitzgerald's "The Curious Case of Benjamin Button", published in 1922. Did anyone else hear this? What did she say, exactly?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11362762726114229657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-73491422226489461792022-07-05T08:58:46.236-04:002022-07-05T08:58:46.236-04:00The episode was spoiled by unecessary deviations f...The episode was spoiled by unecessary deviations from the book. The intensely dramatic scene where Lord John informed Claire of Willie's eistence was lost in the watered down version. Margaret was much younger in the book, and Ishmael disppeared completely. I hope that future seasons do not get ahead of the yet-to-be-written books, substituing the author's unique imagination with doap opera cliches.EMMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06260538940269792435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-33780105225401203312017-12-10T03:17:37.623-05:002017-12-10T03:17:37.623-05:00Karen, you do a wonderful job reviewing each episo...Karen, you do a wonderful job reviewing each episode and I look forward to your comments and others too. I think the writers do a great job bringing Diana's story to life. Diana's books are long and complex, not easy to translate to the TV screen. Not everyone will be happy with every part of every episode but I am always excited to "watch" Claire and Jaime's journey. The quality of this program is rare, beautifully done, with real heart for the characters and for us, the fans! I truly appreciate what they bring to each episode and will always applaud the writers and cast for going above and beyond to bring Diana's books to us in another dimension. Thank you Karen for giving us fans a place to express our love for not only Diana's books but for Outlander as well! Susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00497102700645605005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-13850335397707831522017-12-07T22:21:32.818-05:002017-12-07T22:21:32.818-05:00I am wondering if Jamie being a wanted man (again)...I am wondering if Jamie being a wanted man (again) will end up being motivation for all of them to go to the colonies. L. Bishopnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-27025899387452620172017-12-06T14:46:51.556-05:002017-12-06T14:46:51.556-05:00Susanlynn
Since the stone was only needed for th...Susanlynn <br /><br />Since the stone was only needed for the reading, Mr. Campbell didn’t need to take the stone and it went back to LJG. <br /><br />In regards to people not liking the storyline, I think they are doing a great job having to condense these huge books. They take liberties with the storyline and I think that was the agreement when they decided to do the show. They add as they like and I think overall they do well. I watched Season 1 before I read the book and the wedding episode was way better than the book version, IMO. Stick to the books if you don’t like they way the show is going. I enjoy both, separately for what they are. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-64249900856985210842017-12-06T10:42:43.808-05:002017-12-06T10:42:43.808-05:00I’m glad people are starting to speak up about cha...I’m glad people are starting to speak up about changes from the book. I understand that some things must be omitted or condensed for TV but why change these awesome stories beyond recognition? Perhaps we were all so happy to see the books on screen we let the writers believe we were ok with any deviation from the books? I agree that if they go much further we will lose the essence of Diana’s story.<br />Kylanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-11359894369168836292017-12-05T15:00:44.083-05:002017-12-05T15:00:44.083-05:00I did not like this episode at all. I think the sh... I did not like this episode at all. I think the show has dragged ever since the reunion episode. <br /> The scene with Lord Gray was so awkward – there was too much sexual tension between Lord gray and Jamie – you would think Jamie would be excited to show off Claire after 20 years apart, but he seem too "into" Lord Gray. <br /> I wish the riders have not strayed from the novel – that would've been a great scene at the party for Claire to find out about Willy, I understand the time constraints, but this entire episode seem chopped up. Just way too much going on. <br /> The powdered wig look terrible. I'm ready for them to move on to the mainland and see all of the Fraser's ridge storyline. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01587618454287456790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-5875054377244637352017-12-05T14:56:54.449-05:002017-12-05T14:56:54.449-05:00I just didn't like this episode. Geillis blood...I just didn't like this episode. Geillis blood bath scene was just too much- too weird even for Geillis. The sexual tension between Lord John and Jamie was too strained and Claire just seem awkward the entire episode. It was too chopped together by the writers. <br />I couldn't believe Jamie didn't want to know more about his son. As a parent, all I would want to know is every little detail I could about my child. I was not a fan of the powdered wig. Sam H. looked pale. <br />I'm ready for them to get to the mainland. <br />I think this season has dragged ever since the reunion episode. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01587618454287456790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-27685134173105515612017-12-05T14:56:52.693-05:002017-12-05T14:56:52.693-05:00I saw that John took back the embroidered fob that...I saw that John took back the embroidered fob that his gem was attached to, but did Archie get the gem?Susanlynnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-56311795317407554052017-12-05T10:46:59.034-05:002017-12-05T10:46:59.034-05:00I didn't enjoy it. I don't like the change...I didn't enjoy it. I don't like the changes from the book which seem to be getting more and more pronounced. <br /><br />It makes me very fearful for season 4 and beyond. We won't recognise the story any more if they continue on in this vein.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-56913208886909805072017-12-05T00:13:22.361-05:002017-12-05T00:13:22.361-05:00Yes, Lord John quickly pulled the sapphire out of ...Yes, Lord John quickly pulled the sapphire out of Margaret's hand. I agree with SusanLyn about the meeting of LJG, Jaimie and Claire. It was also a favorite of mine, too. Lotte's portrayal of Geillis was fantastic. The blood didn't bother me, seemed totally in character for Geillis.<br />It does seem like Claire and Jaime just keep getting pulled apart and I think the most satisfying episodes are those in which we get to see Claire and Jaime really connect on an emotional level.Susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00497102700645605005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-77399056209900507772017-12-04T19:53:55.192-05:002017-12-04T19:53:55.192-05:00Does Lord John Grey not take the sapphire back fro...Does Lord John Grey not take the sapphire back from Margaret when the fortune telling session ends?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-72323265143870678092017-12-04T14:46:01.509-05:002017-12-04T14:46:01.509-05:00Thank you for the review, Karen.
I thought that th...Thank you for the review, Karen.<br />I thought that the writers managed to condense a great portion of the story into this episode. My favorite part was the meeting of LJG, Jamie, and Claire. Some of the intensity was gone due to Jamie having told Claire about WIllie immediately when she came to the print shop. However, you could sense the dynamic happening between the three as soon as CLaire noticed John beaming at Jamie as they approached. From that point forward, Claire was watching them carefully , and I think that she already senses that LJG is hopelessly in love with Jamie, and she let him know in subtle ways that Jamie is hers. I noticed the tears in Jamie's eyes as he talked about WIllie. ♥Susanlynnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-85418426611818129122017-12-04T13:40:58.612-05:002017-12-04T13:40:58.612-05:00Hi Karen this season has been great and there are ...Hi Karen this season has been great and there are plenty of good episodes there were some that I watched more than once and some I didn't care for but in general I liked it a lot and hope the season final is just as great , will be watching next Sunday . please post more soon. Sincerely Mary Tormeynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-75593841698072097692017-12-04T10:39:29.678-05:002017-12-04T10:39:29.678-05:00Hi Karen saw it last night it was ok but a lot of...Hi Karen saw it last night it was ok but a lot of scenes didn't make any sense like Mr.wilowuby falling in love with Maragrat Campbell and the way Clare and Lord John behaving towards each other was fake , I too found the blood bath bad and I thought terrible , once again CLaire causes trouble at the Slave Market and now Jamie has to find a way to free the slave thanks to her . Gellis was the only one whose acting didn't seem tired and stiff at times she is the perfect villan , and I'm getting very tired seeing Jamie once again separted and him again in the hands of redcoats its getting tiring , so I hope the season final is worth it , it think it will be because the writers know that fans like me wil be watching I liked this but season 4 is the one I will be watching 'Drums of Autumn ' is a favorite of mine so will be watching that in 2018 . please post more soon. Happy Week. sincerely .Mary Tormeynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-13007216239801505952017-12-04T09:40:59.890-05:002017-12-04T09:40:59.890-05:00The highlights of this episode were the return of ...The highlights of this episode were the return of Geillis in all her twisted evilness and when Jamie and Lord John meet. Geillis is totally unhinged and Lord John portraying, without even having to say a word, his continuing love for Jamie as is noted by his initial instinctual move towards Jamie when they are in the study and then immediately holding himself back and wearing the gem Jamie game him "as a reminder of their friendship". <br /><br />Other than that, I agree, that this episode felt very disjointed - mostly contrived. The scene where Claire is holding the bill of sale for the slave in her name and Jamie says you wanted me to do it.....what??....so uncharacteristic of Jamie...weak...not sure what they are doing with his character. Another is when Jamie is complementing Claire,as they are entering the ball, the camera is not even on them the whole time and then her reaction is flat. This is only time he called her 'my brown haired lass" since referring to it during the reunion episode. <br /><br />Overall, this episode came across as rushed...since the reunion, the episodes come across as attempting to pack in way too much. Interesting to see how everything will be wrapped up in the final episode. I believe the writers should take pause and maintain the richness of characters and the storyline. Debbinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-10392644830287094492017-12-04T05:04:23.606-05:002017-12-04T05:04:23.606-05:00I believe that Claire really did assert herself an...I believe that Claire really did assert herself and her position as Jamie's true love when, in replying to Lord John's observation "He thought you had returned to him-and now you have." -she responded with grace,but finality-"Yes-I have."<br />Debbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17190760053044451138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-63230106093337580422017-12-04T02:12:16.671-05:002017-12-04T02:12:16.671-05:00I don't understand why the script is so differ...I don't understand why the script is so different from the book. Diana Gabaldon described the whole meeting at the Governor's ball wonderfully. I really read it five times, and I still have at my eyes Lord John who wants Jamie. And then the scene in the bedroom after the ball. When Jamie describe Claire an awkward situation. Why did they cut out the murder that Jamie was being accused of? It does not make sense and the movie is boring at times. <br /><br />Kath from PolandKatarzynahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03533129995142246616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-57975457659937420962017-12-04T01:10:51.151-05:002017-12-04T01:10:51.151-05:00In the middle of that shipboard speech that suppos...In the middle of that shipboard speech that supposedly had all the crew and passengers enthralled, this is what Willoughby has to say about Scottish women, not just the whores:<br /><br />"For the love of woman, I am come to a place where no woman is worthy of love. To a place where women are coarse and rank as bears. Creatures of no grace, and these women disdain me as a yellow worm, so that even the lowest of whores will not lie with me".<br /><br />So now we're supposed to believe that Yi Tien Cho is smitten with Ms. Macdonald? Is she not "coarse and rank as bears"? Shouldn't the writers have erased this part of the speech if they planned to hook up the bigoted Asian with a Scottish object of his bigotry?lainehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13284333589904951249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-49973286362439052942017-12-03T23:05:17.458-05:002017-12-03T23:05:17.458-05:00This episode was disjointed, totally detached from...This episode was disjointed, totally detached from the characters themselves and felt contrived - rather like most of this S3. - The writers have exquisite source material yet continue to create crap that has no bearing on the over-arching story. Lastly Jamie's strong character is fading rapidly and Claire's has become hardened. Not liking where this is going at all! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14234824763699760893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-39396323720043999742017-12-03T20:51:13.945-05:002017-12-03T20:51:13.945-05:00Thanks for the "observation"! I always e...Thanks for the "observation"! I always enjoy reading them. In regards to the blood bath. I think they wanted to show how crazy and twisted Gellis is or has become. I still can't see how they are going to wrap everything up next week.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-7883373397378273852017-12-03T19:40:32.996-05:002017-12-03T19:40:32.996-05:00I thought Mr. Willoughby went to Margaret because ...I thought Mr. Willoughby went to Margaret because he could see that her brother was mistreating her. He has a love of all women after all. I thought it was more compassion, rather than infatuation. I have to admit most if this season has felt flat to me. I do love Lord John, cant take my eyes off him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-48272679869087163392017-12-03T18:46:38.002-05:002017-12-03T18:46:38.002-05:00I thought there was some tension between Claire an...I thought there was some tension between Claire and Lord John. Enough to see that Claire could read John’s expression and silently figure it out but not be overly dramatic about it. I thought it was just enough tension. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-11321913010243873092017-12-03T17:38:23.629-05:002017-12-03T17:38:23.629-05:00I almost don't know what to think about this e...I almost don't know what to think about this episode. I really don't like it when they decide something in the book, that isn't necessary to move the story forward, is "cool." That blood bath took a lot of time that could have been spent on the real story.<br /><br />I agree that there wasn't any tension between Lord John and Claire, at least not as much as there should have been. <br /><br />The party in the book was so exciting, with so many things happening, and Yi Tien Cho getting into trouble. And that thing with Margaret Campbell was strange. Not so much in this episode, it was just background.<br /><br />The highlight of this episode, to me, was the return of Geillis Duncan. You're so right that her accent has improved. I very much enjoy Lotte's acting and am so glad to see her villainous self again.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14289774373527880877noreply@blogger.com