tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post6131871302451403612..comments2024-03-26T13:17:29.405-04:00Comments on Outlandish Observations: Episode 103: "The Way Out" (SPOILERS!)Karen Henryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07635855088490793965noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-79669713769558635142014-09-09T20:39:14.586-04:002014-09-09T20:39:14.586-04:00I'm with you Anonymous - Lily of the Valley an...I'm with you Anonymous - Lily of the Valley and Forget-me-nots are spring perennials - one of my first thoughts when I realized what flowers the were depicting. In the books, Claire travels through the stones in May - around Beltane - not in the fall around Samhain. Why this 6 month shift in time, that's what I'm wondering? AmyKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15533253642382255346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-12357365650920330262014-08-27T22:25:12.776-04:002014-08-27T22:25:12.776-04:00I thought Fr Bain's portrayal very realistic. ...I thought Fr Bain's portrayal very realistic. God's Wrath and religious persecution, burning and burying alive women accused of being witches was not uncommon in Scotland as well as the U.S. Could only have been carried out by zealots who instilled terror and demanded obedience.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-40075764282669264012014-08-27T22:09:04.898-04:002014-08-27T22:09:04.898-04:00Wrong leaves! The plant shown appears to have been...Wrong leaves! The plant shown appears to have been a climber with glossy leaves, totally unlike the pale green Lily of the Valley which is less than 6 inches tall and would have disappeared, dormant long before November. By then full heavy frosts will have occurred and even For-get-me-nots would have withered and died, certainly not flowering on a wind blasted hilltop in the Highlands. sorry to nitpick but otherwise just love the film. totally captivated.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-51215863031444584492014-08-26T03:20:12.070-04:002014-08-26T03:20:12.070-04:00I liked and appreciated the changes for the most p...I liked and appreciated the changes for the most part, but I thought Fr. Bain was over the top. The rest of the characters have a high level of believability; not so with Fr. Bain, for me. Nevertheless, I am over the moon with what a good job they are doing, and Lotte Verbeek is stealing the show as Geillis. Loved her red shoes! 2nd viewing does make accepting the changes easier. Conniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11467124869002722927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-55272918422693181102014-08-25T14:31:52.611-04:002014-08-25T14:31:52.611-04:00First of all I will have to add to what K. M. Spri...First of all I will have to add to what K. M. Springsteen said, the plant leaves they showed were UNFORTUNATELY not lily of the valley (nor woodgarlic). It grows in England and can be bought at Gardencenters, I really don’t see a reason why that went wrong . . didn’t Ron D. Moore say they had a herbalist?<br />Knowing they look very similar and there are quite a few people that get poisoned by mistake in Germany every year because they collect lily of the valley leaves which can indeed be lethal (60g for an 80kg adult, so about 30g or less for a kid) – that happens in the spring during the season that woodgarlic can also be found! Woodgarlic or Bärlauch ;-) is becoming popular again, but it also has a short season during which the leaves can be found – so either the boys are totally oblivious to the seasonal aspect of woodgarlic, or the story could have been made to fit the season with them eating the red-orange berries of the lily of the valley, which are at least to be found around autumn.<br />eve me.<br />So for me there was another wow effect at the beginning of the episode when Claire says to Frank that they could just give up and all start speaking German! I just then realized that coming from her background in the 1940’s, my heroine would likely never speak one word w/ me and utterly despise me for being German!! How sad is that :-( . . totally understandable as it is . . so good I realise we’re still speaking of a fictional character here, mind you – lol<br />Thanks for sharing your thoughts on Outlander and I can’t wait to here more from you, Karen<br />LynnLynnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17322109739847427162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-1306025205341652102014-08-25T08:28:01.676-04:002014-08-25T08:28:01.676-04:00I have watched each episode twice. The first time ...I have watched each episode twice. The first time through I find it is uncomfortable, rather a comparison between the beloved book and the characters on the screen. Or should I say...how I imagined the book playing in my head and how it is being portrayed on the screen? Whatever, the first viewing is a struggle. The second time through, though, for some reason, I can seem to look at it for some new form and appreciate it in a different way.<br />I am getting there...I think.Ann Fourniernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-806087520542839872014-08-24T19:15:39.076-04:002014-08-24T19:15:39.076-04:00Great review as always Karen. It's interesting...Great review as always Karen. It's interesting to read K.M. Springsteen's post because in the behind the scenes video for this episode, Ron Moore specifically talks about getting the details right with all those scenes with the herbs etc.<br /><br />My overall take on the series so far is that Claire is being portrayed as waay to comfortable with her situation. As a viewer I don't get the sense of panic of What the hell happened to me! from Claire (not withstanding that "fake" scene with Mrs. Fitz) Maybe that will change in the next episode(s).Lesharonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-41512080249467409612014-08-24T17:11:42.313-04:002014-08-24T17:11:42.313-04:00Great rundown of the episode Karen. I though the a...Great rundown of the episode Karen. I though the adaptation was great and was impressed with the way they brought the story line forward in such a condensed manner but retained much of the original dialogue and the integrity of the book. Despite the previews showing Mrs. Fitz calling Claire a witch I had faith that they would not deviate that far from the book and cause a furor among the fans! I look forward to each episode to see the way they manage to transfer the book to screen in unexpected ways even though we know what should happen next. Hopefully non-readers are enjoying it as well! Ritatime travelerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09805380903162143600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-1503868784757923722014-08-24T16:02:23.907-04:002014-08-24T16:02:23.907-04:00but they aren't trying to write a book, they&#...but they aren't trying to write a book, they're trying to write a hit TV show. Big difference.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-66266040478181457202014-08-24T15:13:14.766-04:002014-08-24T15:13:14.766-04:00Excellent points, as usual! I especially agree abo...Excellent points, as usual! I especially agree about the folk song's being changed to reflect exactly what happened. The nature of folk songs being passed down causes some "artistic licensing" to change or romanticize the story. And we ARE intelligent enough to make the connection!Vicky L. Williamsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00435272623009754836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-12444427391750033082014-08-24T14:51:56.300-04:002014-08-24T14:51:56.300-04:00I think there was meant to be a touch of sarcasm i...I think there was meant to be a touch of sarcasm in Claire's ".....a loaf of bread!". After all isn't that all a bannock is?Shienanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-10262897633491904412014-08-24T14:16:19.278-04:002014-08-24T14:16:19.278-04:00Did you notice how Gellis kept running her hand ov...Did you notice how Gellis kept running her hand over her belly - hello Buck. I've read Outlander twice, but actually thought it was Murtagh who advised her the Jamie needed a woman for a wife, not a child. It is effective in building Murtagh's character.leaves on the Raney Treehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12711219595014372212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-70033140860008309552014-08-24T14:06:39.241-04:002014-08-24T14:06:39.241-04:00I loved this episode.
I loved that bit with Mrs. ...I loved this episode.<br /><br />I loved that bit with Mrs. Fitz in Claire's imagination at the very start. It was very effective in really spelling out the reality of the time and the beliefs and how Claire was in incredible danger.<br /><br />Won't even comment on Sam and Cait because there's nothing else you can say about such perfection. <br /><br />Everyone was wonderful, without exception. But I especially am floored by Lotte Verbeek. She is perfect as Geillis …. Gorgeous and eerie, all at once.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-67637219454024396282014-08-24T13:55:32.724-04:002014-08-24T13:55:32.724-04:00You do realize a bannock is a loaf of bread?You do realize a bannock is a loaf of bread?buffaloquinnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13871784006696337292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-28704762613400016142014-08-24T13:53:05.405-04:002014-08-24T13:53:05.405-04:00I,also, did not like the deviations, but I think t...I,also, did not like the deviations, but I think they needed to get the viewers to understand the depth of Scottish superstitions, to set up what happens later in Cranesmuir.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-63326806504550284972014-08-24T13:49:18.705-04:002014-08-24T13:49:18.705-04:00I would have been happier had they actually used l...I would have been happier had they actually used lily of the valley. If you look up the two plants - wood garlic and lily of the valley, they DO resemble each other. But what she picked was not either of these plants (not even close). Everything else is so spot on with attention to detail that not even getting a plant the resembles one of those mentioned seems like cheating. I know it's nitpicking and it did NOT detract from the show or the performances. I just wonder why they fudged so badly. K. M. Springsteenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05744711727261775873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-87050025506498043862014-08-24T13:34:40.840-04:002014-08-24T13:34:40.840-04:00Why pay so much attention to the details of the sh...Why pay so much attention to the details of the shape of the window in Geliie's house and not how the characters are physically described? I like the flash backs to WWII - I don't have any problem with those being inserted. I don't like alterations to the story that are not necessary - such as substituting Murtagh for Alec when talking to Claire about the kind of woman Jamie needs. Thats not needed and diminishes Alec's role in Jamie's life. Seems to me that they think they could write a better book. Nonetheless - the sets and costumes are awesome and do soften the other disappointments. Victoria Thornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-1226168994016834352014-08-24T12:51:59.960-04:002014-08-24T12:51:59.960-04:00I noticed the part about two bannocks/loaf of brea...I noticed the part about two bannocks/loaf of bread, too, but just assumed that Claire said bread rather than bannocks because that is what her 20th century self would think. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13254477524302911698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-86497846359411897532014-08-24T12:32:40.838-04:002014-08-24T12:32:40.838-04:00But you don't really even notice when somethin...But you don't really even notice when something isn't in the books as it kinda seems like it was in the book the way they blend them together...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06185219248210993497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-67701823133340748682014-08-24T12:04:50.766-04:002014-08-24T12:04:50.766-04:00Dear Karen,
I think you hit right on the nail in ...Dear Karen,<br /><br />I think you hit right on the nail in saying that the first viewing is disturbed with one's view from the book.<br /><br />And when you take another look, the story grows and you will appreciate the adaptation much more.Jari Backmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01140197144212110404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-61022840457052289662014-08-24T11:12:52.351-04:002014-08-24T11:12:52.351-04:00I'm finding myself frustrated at the end of ea...I'm finding myself frustrated at the end of each episode, just as I was when I had to put down the book to do something else. I want it to hurry up, but not end.Jill Blevinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00666127317788417291noreply@blogger.com