tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post6475387956935410203..comments2024-03-26T13:17:29.405-04:00Comments on Outlandish Observations: Episode 501: "The Fiery Cross" (SPOILERS!)Karen Henryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07635855088490793965noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-91477101678678353162022-11-29T15:30:01.185-05:002022-11-29T15:30:01.185-05:00Excellent blog.
One thing did confuse me a bit- I...Excellent blog. <br />One thing did confuse me a bit- I just rewatched all seasons and at Brianna and rogers wedding the tongue twister “Peter Piper” must be a small mistake, as it weren’t published until 1813, unless Claire taught it to them all? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-26030903634514316032021-08-11T22:05:01.192-04:002021-08-11T22:05:01.192-04:00I’m greatly enjoying your posts Karen and finally ...I’m greatly enjoying your posts Karen and finally catching up to the present time. I only came to Outlander in 2020 but have watched all seasons and am now well into my second reading of the fabulous books. Your past analyses have helped clarify some of my misgivings about the differences between the books and the TV series but I’m still struggling with some of adaptions and the reasons for them n spite of reading widely and listening to interviews etc. <br />Obviously the long chapter of the Gathering and all that happens needed to be condensed but Diana didn’t make a big deal of Brianna and Roger’s wedding and I felt this wedding focus of the episode was really only to appease what somebody believes TV viewers crave: modern wedding sentimentality. The secret baptisms would have been good and funny as would have been an introduction to the Bugs who play an important in subsequent books.<br />This view is with hindsight though (seeing I have seen the rest of the series by now) so I’ll be interested to read your comments and those of the people who respond. <br />Regards,<br />Alison SAlison Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00667528022173014338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-73450868821653998182020-03-17T08:33:56.237-04:002020-03-17T08:33:56.237-04:00Hi,
Love the comments posted here, and am loving s...Hi,<br />Love the comments posted here, and am loving series five. <br />It really jarred with me that Claire says to Jamie at the wedding "brave face darling". I have never heard Claire call Jamie "darling" and unless I missed it I don't think she called book Jamie "darling" either, although she endlessly called Frank "darling". Just a small annoyance. but he is Jamie to her, James or when annoyed with him a "bloody Scott".<br />Also, what has happened to Claire's original wedding ring. In the book she wears both her original rings as it is Franks ring that is stolen by Bonnet, and retrieved by Brianna. I know Claire's new silver ring is more like the one described by the author, but I actually loved the first one and hadn't heard what had happened to it. I did think that when Jamie gave Roger the ring made by Murtagh it was the replacement Jamie had made for Claire and Claire was back to wearing the original.<br />Any way, thanks for a place to contribute my opinion.Jananoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-17046926008767319072020-02-24T04:38:01.375-05:002020-02-24T04:38:01.375-05:00I was very disappointed that the show didn't h...I was very disappointed that the show didn't have Roger swear his oath to Jemmy in front of Jamie. I thought that act was very important in the starting relationship between Roger and Jamie. It was a moment when Jamie recognized a man he could respect. The reference Diana makes to the McKenzie blood in both of them. I was sad they took the significance of that moment away from both Roger and Jamie.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03282151884152431162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-73323267417980913502020-02-21T10:47:35.776-05:002020-02-21T10:47:35.776-05:00Hi Karen wilbe watching episode 2 in Lake Placid N...Hi Karen wilbe watching episode 2 in Lake Placid NY where in 1980 the US Hockey team won Olympic Gold over the USSR and its 40th Anniversary and it wil be very exciting to be reliving old memories ,so hope you have a fun weekend too . please post more soon. Happy Week. Loving Outlander .sincerely .Mary Tormeynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-82191575887079363042020-02-20T11:49:01.436-05:002020-02-20T11:49:01.436-05:00Hi Karen loved it from start tofinish and it had e...Hi Karen loved it from start tofinish and it had everything fans wanted and more and seeing Jamie in his kilt again was long overdue and seeing him in his commanding presence reminded me why I fell in love with him again in the first place he just draws you into him , I think there will be a different side to Roger than before and he wil be tested in ways before but he will do what he must for his family and Jamie and will be the Man of the House the way Jamie wants him to be , will be watching more this week and sundays . am so glad Droughtlander is finally over , will be watching episode 2 in Lake Placid NY where in 1980 the US Hockey Team won Olympic Gold over the USSR and its 40th Anniversary . love Outlander very much . please post more soon. Happy Week. Loving Outlander.Mary Tormeynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-26457215365177199382020-02-20T09:44:32.772-05:002020-02-20T09:44:32.772-05:00Maggie, I had the same thought about Roger "k...Maggie, I had the same thought about Roger "knowing" the oath because of his studies. That will be my head canon. ;)<br /><br />SOMEWHERE in the books it is WRITTEN THAT ROGER (and Brianna) think of this Oath with burning Cross as some kind of ancestor of KKK rites - <br />I think that this also may explain Roger's Behaviour <br /><br />Maurizio GarbolinoMaurizio Garbolinonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-37901956956305469242020-02-19T00:11:07.459-05:002020-02-19T00:11:07.459-05:00Karen,
Loved reading your recap and as always hit...Karen, <br />Loved reading your recap and as always hit all the points. I thought the season opener was fantastic. I really enjoyed the humorous parts, reminds me of Season 1 and the highlanders. I got a kick out of Germaine telling Roger that Grandpere said he had ticks,etc. The scenes with Claire and Bree and Jaime and Bree before the wedding could not have been more perfect! Finally, loved the bookending of Jaime and Murtagh, although it was heartbreaking!<br />Thanks for the wonderful job you do and will look forward to the rest of the seasons' recaps!Susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00497102700645605005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-56375570161071104492020-02-18T19:15:24.479-05:002020-02-18T19:15:24.479-05:00So glad Droughtlander is over. Really enjoyed Epis...So glad Droughtlander is over. Really enjoyed Episode 1. Jamie is Jamie again. Love your blog Karen,and looking forward to reading it each week.Thank you.Narellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11085498805252765964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-77405903115033807752020-02-18T11:02:36.415-05:002020-02-18T11:02:36.415-05:00As an older person, I don't find it offensive ...As an older person, I don't find it offensive that Murtagh and Jocasta have a physical relationship. They may be old, but not dead yet. The love making scenes between them were very tastefully done in Season 4, and in Season 5. I am a bit saddened that Murtagh perhaps put his true feelings aside, because he realizes this time he may not be able to outfox the authorities. And his conversation later with Jamie certainly indicates that perhaps he has a premonition that his time is almost up. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03863813579496285146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-60708152558222325592020-02-18T10:43:04.980-05:002020-02-18T10:43:04.980-05:00I didn’t picture the big house like this at all. I...I didn’t picture the big house like this at all. I pictured a log cabin. Anyone else? Kind of threw me off seeing a more modern looking g house. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-9868505009150374292020-02-18T09:21:13.663-05:002020-02-18T09:21:13.663-05:00Lovely. Your words took me through the episode on...Lovely. Your words took me through the episode once more and at their conclusion I found myself in tears....just as I was each time I watched. What is it about this story (all of the books) that grabs so genuninely at my heart and swells the emotions within me? I think a few things....Diana got it so right....and these are my very own people...blood of my blood and bone of my bone...I am of Scottish descent and my ancestors traveled up the Cape Fear to settle in the Iron Duff community just outside of Asheville. By the telling of this story its as if I am seeing what my own family endured....and I feel it..."in the deep heart's core." Thank you for being a part of that!!Tina Thomas Batchelornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-33937992191744154752020-02-18T08:49:35.189-05:002020-02-18T08:49:35.189-05:00I love your recaps, especially how they fit in wit...I love your recaps, especially how they fit in with the books! I really think this season is going to be epic, even though there is so much gut wrenching that I know is going to happen.Phyllis Phttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14850471526819196326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-29501118125147690292020-02-18T00:24:11.561-05:002020-02-18T00:24:11.561-05:00Good job of recapping the season's opener!Good job of recapping the season's opener!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11858788462581016698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-65801062310727399412020-02-17T17:43:48.340-05:002020-02-17T17:43:48.340-05:00Pretty sure I saw that the they have casted someon...<br />Pretty sure I saw that the they have casted someone to take on the Duncan Innes role. Guess the producers knew they had to break Jocasta away from Murtaugh if they wanted to keep Jocasta's FC storyline in the show. Also, I think Roger knew the oath word for word because of his background as a historian, not because he remembered it from Isaiah Morton's recitation.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09261049103010029988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-17875764589804266682020-02-17T16:17:40.271-05:002020-02-17T16:17:40.271-05:00I’m so happy to be in the new season. The night ...I’m so happy to be in the new season. The night before the premiere, I thought to myself “I have to find Karen’s blog!” Looking forward to your insight and unnoticed details , you already pointed out a few things I hadn’t noticed. I enjoyed the premiere. I love the house, I love historic home details in any show I’m watching. I notice paint colors, quilt patterns and cross stitch pictures on the walls. I think that’s why I don’t see all the other details like conversations, haha. I think my favorite part was seeing Jamie and Brianna’s relationship and where it is after last season, warmed my heart! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-37697100770236134812020-02-17T14:01:22.048-05:002020-02-17T14:01:22.048-05:00Maggie, I had the same thought about Roger "k...Maggie, I had the same thought about Roger "knowing" the oath because of his studies. That will be my head canon. ;)<br />Eileen Cobbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-66357832398767155182020-02-17T13:59:12.689-05:002020-02-17T13:59:12.689-05:00I wish Jamie had made his proclamation about the F...I wish Jamie had made his proclamation about the Frasers of the Ridge when he came out wearing the kilt and that other clans had followed, just like in the book.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05877352918932992859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-49031816234962661122020-02-17T06:40:41.764-05:002020-02-17T06:40:41.764-05:00Cate - you're right, and I've always loved...Cate - you're right, and I've always loved the repetition of that bit in DRUMS. Diana Gabaldon has said that was intentional.Karen Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07635855088490793965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-62682560175729921812020-02-17T06:39:51.732-05:002020-02-17T06:39:51.732-05:00Maggie - no, but I think Roger was paying careful ...Maggie - no, but I think Roger was paying careful attention to what the first man said, and he has an excellent memory.Karen Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07635855088490793965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-31230126019769006032020-02-16T22:28:48.302-05:002020-02-16T22:28:48.302-05:00The line Claire has in the book about seeing a Hi...The line Claire has in the book about seeing a Highlander in full regalia - in DRUMS - is ALSO in OUTLANDER - book one, at the wedding. I remember reading it there first, and then DG repeated it almost word for word in DRUMS. I thought that was pretty cool. Here it is from book one, Chapter 14: <br /><br />“A Highlander in full regalia is an impressive sight—any Highlander, no matter how old, ill-favored, or crabbed in appearance. A tall, straight-bodied, and by no means ill-favored young Highlander at close range is breath-taking.”<br /><br />Excerpt From: Diana Gabaldon. “Outlander.” Apple Books. : <br /><br />Catehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14524650117317607144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-2054373408977683452020-02-16T21:24:59.603-05:002020-02-16T21:24:59.603-05:00I loved your review. Do you think Roger might hav...I loved your review. Do you think Roger might have come across the oath in his studies and that's why he knew it?Maggiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10738003516133809213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-16007695969190511142020-02-16T20:50:15.759-05:002020-02-16T20:50:15.759-05:00Thank you for your review and including the book r...Thank you for your review and including the book references. I am hoping to like Outlander again after its horrendous 4th season.Kikibritcheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10024107537008285072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379581147262228210.post-70090519191391837852020-02-16T17:19:55.367-05:002020-02-16T17:19:55.367-05:00karen, i can't tell you how glad i am that i r...karen, i can't tell you how glad i am that i read this before going upstairs to cycle and again see episode 501! it's a brilliant analysis and will so enrich the re-viewing of the episode.inge oppenheimerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03900001121379992999noreply@blogger.com