I also loved the story and the questions it raises, but am I being completely dense and missing something when I ask who the 'fair man' with Roger was?
I just finished it and loved it! I cried at the end, I was so hoping it would be different, but it was still a great story. I have a spoiler question. Is it alright to ask?
Taylor:
That's William Buccleigh MacKenzie (aka "Buck"). Have you read ECHO?
Karen
Jane:
Sure, go ahead and ask. There's already a spoiler warning on this message, so anyone who doesn't want to know should just skip this blog post and the comments.
Karen
Thanks, Karen,
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I wondered why Roger sent his dad to the stones knowing he would not make it back, or so he said to Buck. It would seem he would keep Jerry with him, even it was dangerous (as it seems to have been).
Roger didn't know the role his father would play in his past, so I couldn't understand why he would not try and see if he could change his father's fate.
If the answer to this obvious, I have to plead Outlander overload. I think this it is a real condition and should be in a medical textbook somewhere.
Why do we think the 'fair' headed person with Roger is Buck? First I thought Buck was dark heided too.
Lolly:
It's definitely Buck. Remember, he and Roger left for Craigh na Dun together at the end of ECHO, with the intention of going back through the stones after Jem. And it seems they made it, though we don't know why they ended up in that time and place (Northumbria before 1752, rather than Craigh na Dun in the 1770s).
Buck does have fair hair. I can't remember if he's specifically described as blond or not, but he's not dark-haired, no.
Karen
Jane:
I bet we'll see that question addressed in Book 8. Now I'm REALLY looking forward to Roger's storyline in that book!
Karen
Just finished. So much for my theory that Roger and Buck don't go back... ;-)
Need to read it again--I ran off to BN to read it quickly during lunch and probably missed a bunch of stuff.
Now I need to go back to the beginning of Outlander and reread the parts where Frank/Claire are meeting with the reverend--Frank DOES realize who the small boy in the room with them is, right? Or not? Hmmmm.....
karen in response to your comment to Lolly...Buck is described like this "tall fair-haired passenger, Morag MacKenzie's husband, green eyes dark and wild with fury"...page 529 Drums of Autumn.
I know I'm a bit late to the party here, but I just finished "leaf" & have some questions which I hope to get some insight or opinions on:
1. I have to agree with Jane above,Why would Roger send his father Jerry back through the stones if he doesn't think he'll make it and doesn't know his role in saving him. Why not tell him who you are (he knows he's traveled in time) and keep him with you?
2. Time discrepancy: What is Roger doing that far back in time? If he left in ~ 1980, he should be back in ~ 1780, right?
3. There is a 200 year time jump and the two times run parallel, so the same amount of time passes btw the two time eras. If so, then why has two years passed for Roger and his mom after his father disappears, but only less that two weeks for his father in the 1700's? Diana explains the whole Samhain twice issue with the calendar change, but Jerry wasn't there for 2 years. WHY? Did I miss something?
Inconsistencies bug me. Any ideas? I hope they are explained in book 8!
And it seems they made it, though we don't know why they ended up in that time and place (Northumbria before 1752, rather than Craigh na Dun in the 1770s). past post
well if Roger's son is in a tunnel somewhere, and not in the past also, could that have screwed up Roger's journey.....
Anonymous - yes, that's exactly what Diana said on Compuserve -- that Roger went into the stones thinking of Jeremiah MacKenzie, but the one he was thinking of (Jemmy) was not there, so they ended up going to his "nearest genetic equivalent" (Diana's words) instead.
It will be really interesting to see how this is explained/resolved in Book 8!
Karen
I just found this site -- I'm a late comer to Outlander. I've read all the books and fascinated at everyone's attention to detail. I'm thinking I should re-read the entire series (aw, shucks!) to make sure I pick up on all the nuances....your observations are impressive! Do you keep flashcards or something like that on the characters?
I just finished this part in MOBY... and granted it may be addressed in the next couple of chapters but... I also have to ask, why does Roger send Jerry back through the stones when he is sure Jerry will not make it??? Roger is quick to manipulate time and travel in other circumstances, why not keep Jerry with him? Perplexed!
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June 7, 1729 - Lord John Grey is born (BOTB)
June, 1743 - Jamie and Claire are married (OUTLANDER)
June, 1757 - Lord John and Tom Byrd meet for the first time (LORD JOHN AND THE PRIVATE MATTER)
June 23, 1758 - Lord John is wounded in the Battle of Crefeld in a cannon explosion (LORD JOHN AND THE BROTHERHOOD OF THE BLADE)
June, 1767 - Jamie gives Claire a medicine box as a 24th anniversary present (DRUMS OF AUTUMN)
June, 1767 - Stephen Bonnet robs Jamie and Claire, taking Claire's gold wedding ring (DRUMS OF AUTUMN)
June, 1767 - Claire, Jamie and Ian arrive at River Run for the first time and meet Jocasta Cameron (DRUMS OF AUTUMN)
June, 1769 - Bree visits Lallybroch and meets her new relatives (DRUMS OF AUTUMN)
June, 1770 - Roger returns. from the Indians to claim Jemmy as his son (DRUMS OF AUTUMN)
June 21, 1775 - Claire is taken to trial for the murder of Malva Christie (ABOSAA)
June 2, 1777 - Claire and Jamie arrive at Ticonderoga (ECHO)
June 21-23, 1777 - William gets lost in the Great Dismal and encounters Young Ian (ECHO)
Late June, 1777 - Ian visits Emily and meets Swiftest of Lizards (ECHO)
June 28, 1778 - Claire is shot during the Battle of Monmouth (MOHB)
Early June, 1779 - Rachel gives birth to a baby boy; the MacKenzies return to Fraser's Ridge (MOHB)
June 21, 1780 - Roger is ordained as a Presbyterian minister (BEES)
June, 1969 - Roger visits Bree in Boston (DRUMS OF AUTUMN)
June 20, 1971 - Roger goes back to the 18th century to find Brianna (DRUMS OF AUTUMN)
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